« Maybe banners aren't so bad after all | Main | What's a digital agency? »

January 07, 2009

TrackBack

TrackBack URL for this entry:
http://www.typepad.com/services/trackback/6a01053662532b970c010536bbf76d970c

Listed below are links to weblogs that reference Lies, damned lies and Web ad forecasts:

Comments

Feed You can follow this conversation by subscribing to the comment feed for this post.

Michael Hubbard

I totally disagree - I think forecasting is fantastic and accurate. As a matter of fact, I'm forecasting that you'll receive no less than 3,500 responses to this post that are in support of your view (give or take a few thousand).

Niki Scevak

Brian, great post and agree, although you picked a very exceptional year. From my time at Jupiter (I wasn't the guy who did the 99 forecast but I have done a few of them) and recording the accuracy (the firm did record the accuracy rate and it was always presented to prospective and current clients), the question was always one of time.

A one year forecast was very very accurate, a three year one was accurate (+/- 10%) and a five year accuracy rate was a fuzzy distribution (i.e. no correlation between right and wrong, but mostly right in general where wrong is off by 20%). Obviously the vintages varied and 99 was a bad one.

For instance, if you take the 2001 Jupiter ad forecast (http://www.jupiterresearch.com/bin/item.pl/research:vision/1215/id=89029), it was for $16.5bn in 2006, where the real number ended up being $16.9bn, according to the IAB.

But like everything else it was a question of best alternatives. Each company needs to make internal projections and assumptions around a host of things. No one knows for sure what is going to happen in the future but that doesn't mean people shouldn't make a best effort to quantify and plan what they think will happen.

And hence the market for industry/equity analysts making projections.

Scott Rafer

@niki that's not quite right. in the west, we always forecast up and ignore down cycles. in Asia, they tend to forecast up over a long period of time but with intra-decade volatility. we always ignore that volatility portion, to our peril.

Brian Morrissey

@niki: Long time not talk. Yes, Gary is on the hook for the '99 forecast. I cop to it being an extraordinary example. yet you choose a period of smooth expansion, equally unrepresentative of the up-and-down growth patterns Scott mentions. I don't see much evidence these forecasts take into account macroeconomic factors that clearly affect these comparatively small industries. For instance, what factors would be examined to come up with a forecast of search ad spending in 2013? How can these research firms, which to be fair mostly have analysts who are not trained economists, deign to put out a number that's labeled as anything more than a guess?

It's interesting that research firms put together these scorecards. i wonder why they don't publish them publicly. I'm going to take John Battelle up on his challenge of constructing one.

kawika

Brian, make your scorecard a wiki so readers can help you do the work. Sites like ZDNet's IT Facts (http://blogs.zdnet.com/ITFacts/) don't have the time to go back and check what's been posted, but there might be some fun predictions there with which you can seed your site.

raivo pommer-eesti.www.google.ee.

raivo pommer-www.google.ee
raimo1@hot.ee

Deflation hits Ireland


Ireland's consumer prices fell 2.6 per cent in March from a year ago, the sharpest rate of deflation since 1933, when the world was struggling through the Great Depression, official figures showed yesterday.

The March rate accelerated from an annual deflation rate of 1.7 per cent in February, the Central Statistics Office said. The report said there was no change in prices from February to March, which are now at August 2007 levels.

Ireland's deflation began in January and reflects the country's sudden fall into a deep recession.

The country last suffered from deflation in 1960.

Although lower prices can help spending and exports, deflation can be damaging for an economy if prices enter a downward spiral - consumers hold off buying items on expectations they will become cheaper, pushing retailers to cut prices to encourage spending, and so on.

Finance Minister Brian Lenihan, when announcing an emergency budget on Wednesday to trim 3.25 billion ($7.32 billion) from Ireland's ballooning deficit, said the Government expected deflation to average 4 per cent in 2009.

Verify your Comment

Previewing your Comment

This is only a preview. Your comment has not yet been posted.

Working...
Your comment could not be posted. Error type:
Your comment has been posted. Post another comment

The letters and numbers you entered did not match the image. Please try again.

As a final step before posting your comment, enter the letters and numbers you see in the image below. This prevents automated programs from posting comments.

Having trouble reading this image? View an alternate.

Working...

Post a comment